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DEBATE: TAKE A  CLOSE LOOK AT THE ARGUMENT FOR COMMON GOOD

12/2/2012

 
If you've read my book you know that I discuss the National Park Service's intense dedication to removing Drakes Bay Oyster Company from the Point Reyes National Seashore including falsifying claims.  The Oyster Company, under various ownerships, has been operating for nearly 90 years in this location, which was made a National Seashore about 30 years ago. They farm sustainably, are local, and family-owned. Drakes Bay Oyster Company had a long term lease with the National Park Service---which expired two days ago.  Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar decided not to renew the lease.  This political drama has played out on the national stage as more and more people recognize UN Agenda 21 when they see it.  

I've been a member of a local gay women's email list for about 15 years and am often at odds with Communitarians posting on it. Over the past few weeks I responded to women who were urging others to sign an online petition to get Drakes Bay Oyster Company out of the bay to 'save the bay.' We fought it out online. 

Here's the exchange (I'm blue and they're green):
 
The petition to save the estuary, and end the commercial oysterfarm,isat:http://www.change.org/organizations/turtle_island_restoration_network_2    Time to return this area, so close to SF, to most wilderness possible. There are other places to buy oysters.

Drakes Bay Oyster Company produces 40% of the oysters consumed in California. I'm sure you see yourself as protecting the environment, but you are being misled.  From my book BEHIND THE GREEN MASK: UN Agenda 21;
"Drake’s Bay is in northern California on the Point Reyes Peninsula.  This gorgeous ocean front peninsula is part of the Point Reyes National Seashore. The Drake’s Bay Oyster Company has harvested oysters from the bay for over 70 years.  Their lease with the National Park Service is about to expire in 2012 so they asked for an extension.  Unfortunately for them, the National Park Service wants to declare the area a ‘designated wilderness area.’  According to the National Forestry Service, US Department of Agriculture, a ‘designated wilderness area is defined this way:
 
Wilderness is “an area where the earth and its community of life are untrammeled by man, where man himself is a visitor who does not remain.” An area of wilderness is further defined in the Wilderness Act to mean “an area of undeveloped Federal land retaining its primeval character and influence, without permanent improvements or
human habitation, which is protected and managed so as to preserve its natural conditions and which (1) generally appears to have been affected primarily by the forces of nature, with the imprint of man's work substantially unnoticeable; (2) has outstanding opportunities for solitude or a primitive and unconfined type of recreation; (3) has at
least five thousand acres of land or is of sufficient size as to make practicable its preservation and use in an unimpaired condition; and (4) may also contain ecological, geological, or other features of scientific, educational, scenic, or historical value.”
 
There’s a problem there, as you can see.  The Drake’s Bay Oyster Company has been at that location for seven decades, about three decades more than the National Seashore has been in existence.  The area is now a ‘potential designated wilderness’ so the Park Service wanted to do its inventory and see if it could further restrict uses to ‘visitors who do not remain.’ If they could remove all permanent improvements in the National Seashore they’d be able to change the status to ‘designated wilderness.’ To that end they planted a surveillance camera on the bay and recorded the movements of the employees of the oyster farm hoping to find violations.  Although they recorded more than 250,000 images none of them showed damage to the harbor seals or the environment.  So what did the Park Service do?  They hid that information so that they could say that the oyster farm was a threat to the environment and should lose their lease.  The San Francisco Chronicle newspaper reported on March 24, 2011 that:
Sen. Dianne Feinstein accused the U.S. Department of the Interior on Wednesday of downplaying evidence of misconduct by National Park Service scientists who apparently wanted to get a popular shellfish operation kicked out of Drakes Bay.
The Interior Department's office of the solicitor released a report Tuesday outlining what it termed biased, improper, mistake-ridden work by scientists. But it concluded that the behavior did not rise to the level of intentional "scientific misconduct" - and that nothing criminal occurred.
The headline called it a “mistake” but it wasn’t, was it?  It was deliberate, and it was done in order to declare an area ‘wilderness.’  Untrammeled. Primeval. Primitive.  Wildlands.
---Behind The Green Mask: UN Agenda 21 available on Amazon, Kindle, and Nook.
Rosa Koire

GET THE OYSTER FARM, a major polluter of Point Reyes, OUT OF DRAKE'S BAY NOW!!!!!!!

Drake's Bay Oyster Company has lost their lease.  This operation has been in existence at this location for over 80 years.  It is a sustainable, local, food producer.

Watch this video on Drake's Bay Oyster Company.  Believing dogma without facts does no credit to those who seek the truth. We all need to be conscious of efforts to manipulate those of us who identify as environmentalists.
http://vimeo.com/52331881

For those of you who are not knowledgeable about the National Park Service I suggest you do some research.  And for those of you who believe that no one should have a business or make a profit you might want to re-examine your belief system.  This manipulation of data by the National Park Service is a crime.
Rosa Koire


I think this is a very complicated subject, with no clear right or wrong.  Drake's Bay Oyster has been in the area for decades, and I enjoyed going there regularly for many years. 

But the company was sold about 7 or 8 years ago to a company that knew the lease was poised to expire.  It didn't make a lotta business sense to me.  

I think the best upshot of this discussion has been to underscore the need to examine issues from multiple perspectives, and to avoid being entrenched in a position without doing the research.


Does it matter who owns the lease?  The terms were designed so that it was renewable, and the land originally belonged to farmers and ranchers in the area, including the Lunny family, who had granted it to the National Park Service with the understanding that they could continue.  This fight is predicated on fabricated information and an agenda.  That should concern everyone concerned with social justice and the environment.  If you can't trust your government you are vulnerable.  It may be 'complicated' but we are sharp, intelligent members of our community and we are not afraid to follow the truth wherever it leads us.  I agree with you: things that sound good to us may be designed that way for a reason--and with the hope that we will not look further.
Rosa Koire

Jeez I'm getting tired of this. Get over it! The decision has been made, for the greater good I might add.  It was not decided on fabricated info. It was predicated on an agreement 40 years ago! Also did you bother to read Salazar's decision?
http://www.doi.gov/news/pressreleases/loader.cfm?csModule=security/getfile&pageid=332286

Yes, Judi, of course I did. And you may say it was for the common good or the greater good but I bet you want to be the one to define what that is.  I'm sure someone could point to your life and identify things that don't forward the common good.  

That 40 year old agreement was a lease that was renewable.  The terms were favorable, that was why the owners of the Oyster Farm and all of the ranchers agreed to it in the first place.  It just knocks me out that those of us who are out there fighting for rights, social justice, the 99% , local food, non-GMO, no WTO, etc don't see it when the rhetoric is twisted in the government's favor on an issue that sounds good to us.  It's not that hard to do some research and see what this is about.  Inventory and control.

Investigating issues of justice can be tiring but that is the task of an informed electorate.
Rosa

As a kayaker, I am rejoicing.  The rays you can see while kayaking won't have to deal with the silt desturbed when their oyster metal envelopes are dragged on the bottom. The leopard sharks will appreciate it too! Now if we can just get rid of the COWS in our parks!

I can see that you are not disturbed by the idea of violating property rights.  I can imagine you being in favor of denial of building permits on someone's property because you can see it from a trail while riding your bike.


Rosa,
Thanks for your persevering and tireless work of educating all of us stubborn folks in denial. Though we may not always speak up, we do appreciate. You have educated me about Agenda 21, and I will pass it on! 
much love & blessings


LibertyLegalDocs
12/2/2012 12:34:55 pm

Wow, the Green commenter fails to see that she too will be betrayed by Government contract and she will no longer be allowed to enjoy the wilderness area from her Kayak. She fails to see the agenda "the earth and its community of life are untrammeled by man." NO one will be allowed to enter or enjoy our National parks.

Kris Halterman link
12/3/2012 11:03:36 am

Just another fine example of thinking in the short term, not the long term. The "kayak-er" would rather improve their short sided, selfish benefit, than the longer view of how it sets precedent to destroy all property rights in the future.

Keep fighting the good fight...love your posts.
K.Halterman
Bellingham

Andre Blanchet
12/4/2012 12:30:27 pm

My dad worked at the UN, diplomatic pouch in the basement, for thirty five years. I wanted to work there but he always told me that I would hate the place. He said the UN is funded by pedophile oil sheiks and all the secretaries are prostitutes. He told me that the world is going to change and that I need to be vigilant. My dad told me that if I wanted to succeed in life I needed to go to college join a secretive fraternity and try to become a freemason of the highest degree. He told me to go to columbia or georgetown or yale. He said the Jesuit Order was the best fraternity in the country and they had alot of connections. I went to community college but I dropped out cause the curriculmn was the same as high school. Dont ask questions theres only one way to do this equation this is a required read and report. I have felt that there has been something wrong with america since I graduated high school. Generation X has been hammered by communitarianism. Everyone belives the USA is a democracy. We have lost our will to be free because we have been taught that dissent will be punished. We have been taught that we have rights but the rights are limited for the good of the community. Our definition of right and wrong has been distorted to believe that the authority figure is always right. Drugs are bad unless you buy them in the pharmacy. America has lost speed because the UN has slowed the world down with regulations. I believe global warming is caused by humans but I also believe that we can fix the problem and still maintain our unconditional human rights. Free energy is the only real solution to the problem and every scientist that gets close to success is stomped down. So that means we have to fight fire with fire. We have to stand up an fight for freedom. Their biggest tool is the education system. The fight starts by parents educating themselves about the UNA21, communitarianism and ICLEI. Parents have to educate teachers and other parents at pta meetings about SD UNA21.. We have to teach our kids to be politically involved so that something like UNA21 doesnt slip past again.

Tam
12/11/2012 01:03:40 pm

Way to go, Rosa. Intelligently and patiently discussed, with your liveliness shining through!

Have just "discovered" you and understand the arguments well. Everything falls into place now: The economy is being purposely tanked in order to send more and more people into foreclosure and submission. More property will change hands and loyalties/willingness to fight for one's property will be dissolved. More and more people dependent on the government will be less people willing to stand up and fight.

I'm going to print those pamphlets and pop them into key locations. THANK YOU!

Joe link
12/14/2012 06:08:51 am

Interestingly enough, the harassers don't seem to think twice about the popularity of the Drake Bay oysters, and are empirious enough to think that they don't need to get on the good side of the public that they're "saving".


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